Listen To Your Body Podcast 313 How To Stop a Bad Body Image Day in Its Tracks w/ Brianna Campos

How To Stop a Bad Body Image Day in Its Tracks w/ Brianna Campos

In these challenging times, body image struggles can get amplified fast. But, if you are prepared with practical ways to get through and understand a bad body image day, you can stop those gremlin thoughts in their tracks and reclaim the power you give your body.

Listen To Your Body Podcast 313 How To Stop a Bad Body Image Day in Its Tracks w/ Brianna Campos

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Key Takeaways

To Stop A Bad Body Image Day In Its Tracks:

  1. Acknowledge your gremlin dialogue and question why you are allowing yourself to believe the stories diet culture has told you
  2. View body positivity as a social justice issue and embrace body positivity for all bodies
  3. Allow space for the grieving of what society celebrates and venture into the tidal wave of your emotions
  4. Give yourself permission to listen to your body and do what feels right for your body in the here and now

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Body Image With Bri Campos

Brianna Campos, or Body Image with Bri, as she is known on Instagram, is a mental health counselor, therapist, and body image coach. Bri is passionate about helping others maneuver through their body image journey and heal the relationship that her clients have with their bodies.

Getting Over Your Gremlin Thoughts

Bri views the nasty thoughts or critical self-talk we engage with as your ‘gremlin voice’. These thoughts can often be messy and uncomfortable, which is why we cover them up with the stories we have been told by diet culture.

If you want to push through these gremlin voices, you need to acknowledge your inner dialogue, allow space for grief, and give yourself permission to be where you are right now, regardless of where everybody else is. By auditing your thoughts and focusing on the ones that align with your core values, you can choose to love yourself in a way that feels right for you.

Healing Your Body Image Relationships

Body image is not just about how you look. Body image encompasses everything from body positivity to privilege and your relationship with diet culture. The work begins when you start to question the stories that you tell yourself and take the leap into the tidal wave of grief and acceptance.

While it is not always easy, dismantling how we treat ourselves and our bodies is essential in healing your relationship with your body and getting over your bad body image days with grace. 

How are you giving yourself permission to be where you are now during this holiday season? Share which of Bri’s tips and techniques you are going to implement with me in the comments below.

In This Episode

  • How to stop having a bad body image day by acknowledging your ‘gremlin’ thoughts (9:56)
  • Why you should view body positivity as a social justice movement (11:46)
  • Acknowledging the downsides of diet culture and weight cycling (24:12)
  • The importance of allowing yourself to leave space and truly feel grief (28:54)
  • Tips for navigating the holiday season and the pandemic when having bad body image days (34:40)

Quotes

“People look to me not because I am perfect, but because I am vulnerable and I am honest.” (9:51)

“Body image is not just how you look. Body image is also how you believe others view you, how those belief systems have you show up in the world. And there is a piece of body positivity in society of how accessible life is for you in your body.” (12:31)

“I never believed that I could love my body until it looked the way I wanted it to. And it’s five years later, and I love my body. I don’t always love the way it looks or the way it moves, but I love my body, I love the vessel that it is and how it brings me closer to the values of connection and relationship and bringing good to the world.” (26:13)

“Grief is sort of like a tidal wave. If you resist it, it persists. It pulls you deeper and deeper. As opposed to if you just ride out with it, eventually, it puts you back onshore. Because that is what emotions do, we don’t stay in one place forever.” (31:50)

“I am going to honor my body, and this is how I am going to choose to love myself this holiday season.” (37:05)

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How To Stop a Bad Body Image Day in Its Tracks w/ Brianna Campos FULL TRANSCRIPT

Steph Gaudreau
How can you stop a bad body image day in its tracks? We’re going to be talking about this and more. On this episode of The Listen To Your Body podcast with my very special guest Bri Campos. The next evolution of Harder To Kill Radio is here. Welcome to the Listen To Your Body podcast. on this show, we’ll explore the intersection of body, mind, and soul health, and help you reclaim your abilities to eat and move more intuitively. Hear Your body’s signals, and trust yourself more deeply. I’m Steph Gaudreau, a certified intuitive eating counselor, nutritional therapy practitioner, and strength coach. On this podcast, you can expect to hear expert guest interviews and solo chats that will help you deepen your trust with food movement and your body. Remember to hit the subscribe button and share this podcast with your friends and loved ones. Now on to the show.

Steph Gaudreau
Hello, welcome back to the podcast today. Oh, this is such a great topic we are going to be talking about body image. I mean, this year has been a challenge, to put it mildly, and in these challenging times, body image struggles and challenges can be really amplified. So today’s guest Bri Campos, better known as body image with Bri on Instagram. She is a therapist and a body image coach. She is joining us for the podcast today to talk about what do you do? When a bad body image day strikes, how do you get through it? How do you understand it? And she’s also going to be sharing with you an essential ingredient in healing your relationship with your body, one that nobody ever talks about. So I hope that you enjoyed this episode tremendously. I love Bri and her energy and the work she’s doing in the world is incredibly important. Remember to hit subscribe on this podcast so that new episodes get uploaded to your device automatically, as we say in our household. And before we hop into the episode. Remember that the doors to the tune in membership are open for you. If you are craving community, you’re craving a supportive environment to really lean into your relationship with food and your body and finding your way. In a world where diet culture is so loud. And you’re so over it. Then come and join the Tune In Membership. You’ll find support, monthly themes, activities, core courses, and more. To do that, go to StephGaudreau.com/Insider. Alright, let’s go ahead and jump into this episode with Bri Campos. Hello, Bri, welcome to the show.

Brianna Campos
Hi, thanks so much for having me.

Steph Gaudreau
Oh, my gosh, you’re totally welcome. I’m excited to have you here today. With us on the podcast. Your work in the world is so important and so very necessary. And I really appreciate how you started doing this work, because you found that there was a need and the resources that you wanted weren’t available to you. And I think, gosh, anytime we can, we can do that. We’re like generating…we’re filling the holes that we see out in the world. That’s just so incredibly powerful. So thanks for being here.

Brianna Campos
Oh, well, thank you again, so much for having me. And like I’ve told you before, I have always been such a big fan of you. So this is a huge honor for me.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, awesome. Well, we’re gonna jump into some stuff today about body image, which you were saying before we I laugh, I laugh because it’s not funny, but it’s just like, Oh my gosh, can we just all acknowledge the big thing in the room, which is that this year has been so hard for so many reasons. And it’s not like body image stuff ever goes away. But it feels like this year has been even more amplified with regard to body image struggles. Have you been finding that with your community?

Brianna Campos
Absolutely. I think what I would have found in a maybe more normal year is people comparing themselves to other people. And this year is people comparing themselves to like a, you know, a more abled version of themselves? And it seems like it’s almost worse because of the limitations of, you know, where, what how to, you know, go out in the world, usually, we can, you know, okay, well, you know, I’m just gonna, you know, quick fix, I’m going to do XYZ, whereas we’re not only limited physically because of this date of the way the world is in but to, because emotionally, I think so many people aren’t considering how much 2020 is impacting them emotionally, and therefore, lowering motivation to just even do like basic self-care. So yeah, this has been a hard body image year for sure.

Steph Gaudreau
Which makes your work all the more necessary.

Brianna Campos
Absolutely. And I would argue, even for myself, like, it’s been a hard body image year for me, and I’m…this is my job.

Steph Gaudreau
Uh, huh. Yeah, I was gonna say for, I was actually thinking about that, that this morning. And being someone who is in for me, personally, a straight-sized body, you know, like, there is there are multiple layers of privilege that I have. And I was still thinking about that this morning, how those of us who are coaches, professionals, counselors, it’s not, I think there’s this false perception that if we’re in this position of helping other people that we are will never have a challenging moment with body image ever again. How do you? How do you talk yourself through those moments?

Brianna Campos
Well, so it’s funny too because so one of the ideas that I’ve like is borrowed from a personal hero of mine Brene Brown, she refers to that critical self-talk as a gremlin voice. And for me, that was really instrumental in identifying my voice versus my Gremlin voice. And what I have found is my Gremlin dialogue just changes, right? So it used to be the Gremlin dialogue would be, oh, you know, you can’t show up in the world because of your, your large body. And I and I refer to myself as fat, but in a reclaimed way, and I used to call myself fat in a bullying way. And so my Gremlins would be like, Oh, you’re fat, no one’s going to take you seriously. And now, the Gremlins are. You’re having a bad body image day? No one’s gonna take you seriously because you’re a body image expert. So they just find a new place to nest.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, I’m picturing the actual movie Gremlins. Yeah. How were you know, you throw water on them, and really bad things happen, right, they get wet. And I just keep thinking, you know, it’s almost like that concept doesn’t go away. But the conversation internally does shift. I’m in a group full of entrepreneurs. And some of the coaches in there always say, the new devil in it, it always strikes me as like, yeah. I mean, there’s always going to be something. And how you talk yourself through it. Is the growth, right?

Brianna Campos
Absolutely. And it’s funny that you actually mentioned the movie because that’s what Bernie Brown does. She said, there are these rules, right, to keep the Gremlins alive and one of the rules is that you can’t expose them to the light. And so if you think about that, in the terms of our brain, Gremlins, the same thing is true. And so for me, the first thing that I found power in is acknowledging the Gremlin dialogue of like, acknowledging, wow, this thought is here. And this thought, a question I’ll ask myself is Bri does this thought align or bring you closer to your values? And I think about who? How I love people, how I show up for people in the world. And do I want to be somebody that is, you know, perfect, right? Do I love Brene Brown or you because you’re perfect? No, I love you because you’re authentic, and you’re real. And, you know, and, like, you hold integrity. And so those are the same values that I have for myself. And so when I start thinking of, Oh, no, I’m not. I’m not being very positive right now. I don’t think people follow me because I’m perfect, right? Or people look to me, not because I’m perfect, but because I’m vulnerable, and I’m honest. And so what happens is, this is what I find. And I just recently posted about this of how to stop having a bad body image day. had previously posted how to stop having bad as a bad body image thought. And then my next slide was you don’t need like, it’s just not realistic.

Brianna Campos
It’s like having a partner and being like, we will never fight ever again. Okay, that’s great intentions, but probably not realistic, right if we were in a relationship with our body. So how do we stop having a bad body image day for me? That has been acknowledging the Gremlin thoughts and catching them early before they take over the whole day.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, before they run wild like in the movie. I don’t know if I think the listeners here are of the right vintage where maybe they saw Gremlins as a child-like myself, maybe they saw it on a throwback movie night. But there’s that scene, there’s some scenes in the movies where they just run wild. And if I may have right, so it was like catching them. I want to back up for a minute. Yeah, because I think that there’s a really important concept that’s central to your work. And you talk about this quite a bit, that oftentimes gets misunderstood and confused. And the few times that I’ve tried to bring this up on the podcast is ended up with a lot of people having more questions, and some people getting really resistant to this idea. So it’s the idea that body positivity is a social justice issue. And body positivity has really been in a lot of ways co-opted by, by folks who are not part of the original movement. And so I often get questions from people like, well, so I’m not supposed to have a positive body image, then, you know, so I would, I would love for you to maybe dissect those concepts and tell us how are they related? But how are they very different?

Brianna Campos
Absolutely. And so, if we take a positive view of ourselves, right, if we, if we are able to identify the different aspects of body image is not just how you look, right? body image is also how you believe others view you how those belief systems have you show up in the world. And there’s a piece of body positivity in society of how accessible is life for you, in your body. And I know people hate the P-word, right? But the privilege you’ve acknowledged, right, I have, you know, a thin privilege. Privilege does not mean that your life isn’t hard because of your body, it just means that society doesn’t make your life harder because of the body that you’re in. And that goes even further. Right? So I have privilege, even though I identify as being fat, I also have a lot of white privilege, right? And here’s where the social justice piece comes in. And if you’re somebody who is listening to this, you’re like, I don’t understand this, this doesn’t make sense. I implore you to have a conversation with me, I would love to talk to you about this. Because the reason it’s so Pinnacle is body positivity isn’t just for you. Right? It’s for all bodies. And you cannot in one breath claim, I’m body positive, but then shame or demonize another body. And we do that and whether it be, you know, a thin body, a fat body, an unhealthy body, and unabled body, a black body. There are so many pieces here that yes, at its root, it is a social justice issue. And if you are somebody who is maybe coming out of diet culture, right, and you are just learning about this for the first time, there, I implore you, there’s a seat at the table for you. There’s a seat at the table for you to learn. It’s funny, as I go back and I look at my work over the last couple of years, there were things that I was saying and doing that is still fat phobic. And I haven’t learned or realized until I’ve done this work of really deep diving into my own belief systems around bodies, that if we believe all bodies are good bodies. The question is, what is a good body only one that is aesthetically pleasing is a good body only one that is healthy is a good body, only one that fits into society. I’d argue no for me, a good body is that we’ll all bodies are good bodies. But for me, my body is the vessel in which I get to connect with people in real life. Like it is a cup so for me, my good body. It doesn’t matter what cup it’s in, whether that’s a large cup or a small cup, that body is a good body. But coming back to the social justice issue,

Brianna Campos
I think one of the things that are really hard and I implore you, when we get defensive, we have to look at what we’re defending. And so with that, I wonder what the story you’re telling yourself is, well, why can’t I be pot body positive and do this? Because if I’m saying that you’re not body positive, if you are promoting weight loss, or, you know, promoting diet culture, what’s the story that you’re telling yourself, and that’s where the work begins. Because at the end of the day, you have the right to body autonomy, you have the right to do with your body what you want. But what you’re not able to do is co-opt, a movement that is about inclusivity and then make it exclusive. That’s what you’re not allowed to do.

Steph Gaudreau
I really appreciate the way you walked us through that. And I think that that is a concept that’s tricky. is, in order to be inclusive, we have to be exclusive. Like, and, you know, Can Can you be? Are you excluding people in a way that doesn’t promote inclusivity? So it’s, it’s complicated.

Brianna Campos
It’s so complicated. And that’s why I’m willing to have these conversations. Because we have to do and if the message of body positivity being a social justice movement is hard for you, that’s okay. It was it, there’s a learning curve to it. And if you’ve never been exposed to that, that’s understandable. The reason why is because we have to look at are the words that I’m saying matching up with the actions that I’m falling through, is their cognitive dissonance. And so, I’d love to give you you know, a personal example.

Brianna Campos
I was doing body image work way before I found intuitive eating and Health at Every Size. The issue that was coming up is my body positivity was exclusively when my body looked the way that I wanted to. And the problem was that it’s like, it’s like saying, I love my children, when they behave, and only then, right, I love my partner, when they do the things that I want them to do. I love my friends, only when they look the way that I want them to. That’s not love, that’s conformity. That’s not authentic. And yet, at the same time, I remember that mental drive of feeling better about myself. But I’d argue, do you feel better about yourself, because you are better? Or because you’re getting a lot of compliments, and people look up to you and people, lavish you with praise, right? Because you have the ability to fit into society easier. Nobody saying it’s not hard, I’m not lying, it is harder to live in a large body.

Brianna Campos
I’m not going to sugarcoat that there are benefits to being in a smaller body. And I’ve said this before, but if there was a pill, a magical pill, with no side effects, that has been studied for years, and they said, take this pill and you’ll be in a smaller body. I would take that pill, but not because it would make me more lovable, not because it would make me more qualified, not because it would change my self-esteem at all, it would just make my life easier. And that’s the difference. Does that make sense? .

Steph Gaudreau
It does, yeah, I really appreciate you sharing that personal point of view in your own experiences. And I think that’s one of the tough parts that I see out in the world is that again, especially people who don’t have that lived experience, it’s like, Are we willing to set aside our own viewpoints and talk to and listen To hear out people who do have that lived experience of being in a large body of having a disability, you know, of not being white and what that’s like, and are we willing to just listen. And I think that that’s the toughest part is that we’re like know that I’m going to insert my own experiences here and I know better and conversations like these I, I feel like are incredibly important and still very lacking in the wellness space, the health space, so.

Brianna Campos
I think there’s a, there’s a reason for that, too. I think a lot of people bypass this conversation because it’s hard. And because people don’t want to make a mistake, they don’t want to say the wrong thing. And I hear that and I would say, if somebody is listening to this, and they, they’re really struggling with the word privilege, I want you to, there’s an amazing article and it’s called Unpacking The Knapsack Of Privilege. And it goes through all of these examples of here’s how you experience privilege in a white body, right? Just because you’re white, right? Like, and if you can identify with these experiences, then there you are, you have privileges, you didn’t do anything to earn it, you just have it. And I did something similar. And I will send that to you as well of, right, the opposite of thin privilege is fat oppression. And there are things that are just, I experienced that someone in a smaller body just isn’t that I am going to experience, people are going to assume things about my body size, just by looking at me that I cannot go into most stores, knowing that I’m going to be able to find something in my size, that seats in airplanes and in movie theaters and restaurants may not accommodate my body. And I think the difference is and I think I remember getting stuck here, right? And diet culture is there is a belief system that well I can change my body size, you can’t change your skin color. But you can change your body size, and what I’d argue is for how long? For how long can you change your vices? What is the empirical research that says we can sustain weight loss long term, and if you do research, you will find that for 95% of us, it’s no longer than five years? And then what we end up doing is weight cycling, which there is so much research on how harmful that is to your health, that we keep pushing people into this narrative of, we need to make your body smaller to fit into society, and then they keep weight cycling, and then they keep exacerbating this cycle of health or you know, not health, but not for the reasons that we think.

Steph Gaudreau
Absolutely, it’s, um, it’s tricky because we get we have the situation, at least, you know, with the folks, oftentimes that I work with, where it’s like, acknowledging and letting them acknowledge the, as you said, the lived experiences that you have, and how uncomfortable society makes it, and how oppressive this the systems are, that the discomfort is so great.

Steph Gaudreau
And then we have this, you know, kind of like, heavy air quotes, wonderful solution offered by diet culture, which is the escape, right, it is the solution that’s offered. And that just keeps people oftentimes stuck, right? And kind of vacillating between those efforts of like, Okay, I’m going to change my body and, and like, now that my, my biology and my psychology is kind of, you know, trying to set me back to a place that sustainable and safe. Then the added level of will, this is what’s wrong with me. I’m a failure. I can’t maintain, you know, like, there’s erodes people’s confidence and like you said, weight cycling, and health implications of that. But it’s like, we’re not willing to acknowledge the downsides of that diet culture.

Brianna Campos
Correct. Because the downsides almost feel like they’re outweighed by the praise, right? And the good things that we celebrate, and it’s short term, right, I always tell people, I can tell you diet culture, in an elevator pitch, I can’t sell you true body autonomy and body positivity in 30 seconds or less, because it’s so nuanced. And there’s so many belief systems here that have to be acknowledged, and I’m done. And I’d argue that if somebody is saying, Well, you know, Steph like I hear you and like, that sounds great, but it’s really hard. Can we sit in that? Can we acknowledge the difficulty that comes with having to grieve what society is going to celebrate? Right? That was probably one of the pinnacle points for me is realizing, I’m never going to have a body that society is going to celebrate, I’m never going to be an after photo and because of that, right, the fear was that no one’s going to know how hard I’ve worked. No one’s going to know the effort that I’ve put forth trying to achieve or maintain, you know, a lower body weight. And I can confidently say I never believed that I could love my body until it looked the way that I wanted it to. And it’s five years later, and I love my body, I don’t always love the way it looks or the way it moves. But I love my body, I love the vessel that it is, and how it brings me closer to the values of connection and relationship and bringing good to the world. And so I would, I would suggest if somebody’s really struggling, and I know people say this all the time but I want you to think or write out some of the meanest thoughts that you have, your Gremlin thoughts, about your body. And then I want you to call up someone you love and say that about them. Like, I really think about saying it to your niece or your nephew or your sibling. And if you would not ever do that, then there’s something wrong with those thoughts. Those are not thoughts that are lying with your value and under the guise of body image, you’re hiding your body hate.

Steph Gaudreau
Wow, yeah, that’s so powerful. I think that that’s an incredible point that you brought up and I just want to echo this again, so that listeners here it is that, you know, we’re oftentimes kind of sold that this is going to be even the antithesis of diet culture, right, which is really learning about eating intuitively and coming to appreciate and love your body and Health at Every Size, there’s almost this expectation that it’s going to be fast and easy. And it’s because of everything else we’ve been taught about diets and diet culture, and quick-fix results and things like that. So I love how you said let’s have a moment to really sink into that, that idea that it is nuanced. And it is tricky. And it does involve, like you said, understanding and learning about belief systems. And I just think that is it’s a really powerful thing to just be in that idea that it takes time.

Brianna Campos
And I would argue that the term toxic positivity applies perfectly to body image because nobody wants to let it suck. Sometimes, it just sucks. And when I sit with clients, a concept that I really work with is this idea of body grief. Because I feel like there if you’re somebody who’s listening to this, and you’re like, Okay, I hear you, I get it, it’s hard. But now I’m sad. And now I don’t know what to do. I hear you, I absolutely hear you. And let’s sit in that suck together. Because there needs to be room for grief. Because what we do is instead, when we try to silverline it, we’re bypassing the grief to try to get to the reframe. But you might not be ready for the reframe until you’ve allowed the Gremlin thoughts to be exposed to the light. And what I have found in my own experience is Yeah, when I give space for grief, when I allow it to suck, when I bring other people into it when I remind myself of the values that I hold dearly. If that thought doesn’t align with it, then I have to reparent myself in a way of Okay, Bri that’s not what we would say to anyone else. So let’s not say that to ourselves. And I think sometimes people think it’s so easy of like, oh, we’re just gonna, you know, we’re gonna change our, the way we talk to ourselves and we’re gonna, you know, do X, Y, and Z and maybe the skills like The tools our knowledge, like, offer, like the top of our head, we can acknowledge it’s the implementation. Every time, every time.

Steph Gaudreau
100% Yeah. You know, I think there’s a fear for a lot of people about letting themselves feel that grief, or like opening up that box, right, because we are so good at like you said toxic positivity and loving love and lighting it away and skipping over the being in the feeling mm, which for a lot of people can feel really scary, because then sometimes they’re afraid they’re not going to be able to move past it.

Brianna Campos
Wow. And that is grief. And, you know, I’ve shared very openly my own personal story. with grief. I’m not actually sure if you’re familiar with it but eight years ago, my older brother passed away. And grief, I always described, it came down to me, like a boulder on my chest. And I thought I had to have this toxic positivity of showing everyone I was okay. And I remember my therapist asking me, what would it look like to just sit in this, I said, I’m afraid if I allow this, that it’s never, I’m never gonna stop, I’m gonna get stuck here. And what I find is that grief is sort of like a tidal wave, that if you resist it, it persists. It pulls you deeper and deeper and deeper, as opposed to if you just ride out with it, eventually it shows you back, it puts you back onshore because that’s what emotions do. We don’t stay in one place, forever. And the reason I think grief is so unfamiliar for so many of us is that it’s not named. We know, anger, we know, okay, I’m so angry with my partner right now. But it’ll dissipate, I know that will go away. People are unfamiliar with grief, it is a foreign concept for them. So they don’t have a memory pairing of oh, this is going to end like this feeling right now is going to end. And the other thing is that grief can feel like so many feelings wrapped into one. It’s not just sadness, but despair, or anger, or frustration, right. And there’s room for all of that. And so my advice is if you’re afraid to venture out into the tidal wave, and you do not trust that there is something that’s going to bring you back, then this is the importance of a community of having people who will be with you who can throw a raft down to you and say, I got you, I will not let you spiral, so far out of control that you’re going to get lost at sea. But that when you learn to ride the waves of grief, the next time the tidal wave takes you it’s familiar, it’s no longer an unfamiliar feeling.

Steph Gaudreau
Well, it’s beautifully said.

Brianna Campos
Thank you.

Steph Gaudreau
I really appreciate that and I know my listeners will as well. Listening to this, I have one last question and that is, this episode is going to be airing right around the end of December. We’re recording this on November 20. And so we’re about to kind of really head headlong into the holiday season and this is, you know, as we talked about at the top of the show shaping up to be just such a strange and hard year. And I know that there is a chance that for some folks listening, the holidays with this stress and the unknowns and everything else that’s going on right now is likely to exacerbate their Gremlin thoughts about their bodies and you talked about sort of exposing those thoughts to the light and kind of calling them forward. And I’m wondering if you have any other steps or advice for people if they’re feeling right now or coming up that with the holidays and everything that’s happening there? Their body image? Thoughts are they’re bad, they’re body image days feel a lot more amplified?

Brianna Campos
Yeah, absolutely. So I’ll actually give you a technique that I did five years ago. I always had always written out resolutions and I always failed those resolutions. And so rather than write out a list of going into the new year with expectations that you have in the past, can you give yourself permission? Can you write out permission slips of what do you want this holiday season and the next year to bring? And even if that’s, I give myself permission to be really sad about how my body looks, or I give myself permission to take a break from formal movement, or I give myself permission to listen to my body when it comes to food. And even if I try to bully myself, while I’m eating said food, I’m still allowed to. I’m changing the rules here. And what I think would be helpful with that, is it creates this nuance and if you think about, when we use permission slips, it was like back in, you know, you’re going on a field trip, and you need to have your parent sign it. Sometimes we’re looking for permission from somebody else to say, to cosign it. And I’ll never forget how therapists say to me you can write, you can sign your own permission slips at this point, you don’t need anyone else to co-sign it. And as a, as a recovering people pleaser, that’s very hard to do. Because I never want to do the wrong thing. When nobody else is in your body, nobody else is in your mind, and nobody has your lived experience. So if you’re listening to this, and you’re like, God, You know what, I just want to go into the holiday season. And I want to eat all of the delicious foods. And I want to tune out all of the people who are gonna, you know, complain about, like, you know, calories, or whatever the case may be. Can you give yourself permission to do that? Can you give yourself permission to set boundaries to, you know, and Karen of like, Listen, like, we’re not going to do this. Can you? Can you give yourself permission to not be where everyone else is? If you’re, you know, if you’re in like a running group, and everybody is like, Oh, you know, we got to get back on track starting Monday, have given yourself permission to be like, No, I don’t need to get back anywhere. I’m gonna honor my body. And this is how I’m going to choose to love myself this holiday season.

Steph Gaudreau
Oh, so good. I love that concept. And permission slips all day. You’re old enough to co-sign your own permission slips. So that’s an incredibly powerful strategy. And an idea and concept for folks now, and always, is such a great one. So I’m really glad that you shared that.

Brianna Campos
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Steph Gaudreau
Well, this has been so great. Um, gosh, we could keep talking, probably for another two hours. So this is it has just been wonderful. I would love if you would share with the listeners, you know, how can they learn more about you in the work that you’re doing? Where are you on social media and the internet so they can learn more about you?

Brianna Campos
Absolutely. So, and this is again, just one of the beautiful things about leaning into grief in my prior life, my mind was consumed with food and my body and so there wasn’t room or space to do anything else. And now I have this beautiful business and offering of body image coaching that was born out of necessity because I wish it had existed when I was going through my body image journey. And my body image struggles I would say because we’re always on a journey. There is no destination, we just continue to learn and grow and learn and grow. And so I have created some really powerful offerings that, again, I wish existed when I was in the crux of my body dysmorphia and so, my first offer is going to launch in 2021 it is a Body Grievers Group and the heart behind the Body Grievers Group is if you feel like you this message of body positivity is intriguing but yet you feel like okay, well, I don’t want to diet anymore. But I don’t feel body positive and you just sort of feel stuck in no man’s land. This is the group for you. And it is a six-week group where you get to get together with like-minded folk, to grieve your body to just allow that space to sit in the suck. And again, I love Brene Brown, she says that if you put shame in a petri dish, it needs three things to survive, silence, secrecy, and judgment. And if you put the same amount of empathy in the petri dish, it can’t survive. And so my hope is that by having a group by having a community it can’t survive the shame. Gremlins are going to be exposed to the light and they’re going to dissipate. And it is immensely powerful to see the transformations that the people that I work with have, I always say to people don’t come into this group thinking that your body image is going to be healed. And you’re that’s not what this is. This is a group to just sit in the suck to just be validated. And to know you’re not alone in the world. And also have some lower-level Body Grievers options if the course or the group isn’t available to you, inside like a mini bundle that you can do by yourself with the recording. And then the other option I have is for professionals if you are somebody who’s working with clients with body image and you feel stuck like you feel like we get to this place, and then I just don’t know where to go next. I created a Body Image Supervision Cohort. Because I remember, actually, when I was working in eating disorder recovery, while actively on a diet, which that’s another podcast for another time, but I went to my supervisor, and I was like, okay, the girls want to talk about body image, what do I do? And she was like, well, body image is the last piece to come. So I repeated that. And they were like, no, that’s not good enough for us. Like, if you want me to eat lunch, you’re gonna have to come up with something else. And I was like, well, crap, so I go to these books. And they all suck. It’s like, Oh, you don’t like your body, say three nice things. I’m like, I wouldn’t even do that. It forced me to create my own content and methods around how to work with body image. And so I deeply, I deeply value sharing that work with other providers, because then it will cut me out. And you can work with them directly on body image. So those would be the two offers, I would say, I have going into 2020.

Steph Gaudreau
That’s amazing. So very wonderful that you have those options for, like you said, providers, and also for what I would say our regular folk who are non-providers, I like them. And, again, so incredibly powerful. And we’re gonna link all of that stuff in the show notes, all those links. And so if people want to go directly they can or they can, you know, find you through your social media, your Instagram is fantastic. And by the way, I’m a huge fan of your singing. Everything that you do is like it’s so beautiful and wonderful and joyous, which I think right now we have you know, those moments of joy are just, they’re like little lifelines. And so I really appreciate that you share that stuff, too. It always brings a smile to my face when I see it.

Brianna Campos
Oh, thank you so much. Appreciate that. Yes, come hang out with me on Instagram if you’re not there already. I’m on there way too much.

Steph Gaudreau
Oh, do it, everybody. Okay, well, this has been so wonderful. Bri Campos, thank you for being on the podcast.

Steph Gaudreau
There you go. That’s a wrap on this episode with Bri Campos. Better known as a Body Image with Bri on Instagram. For the Show Notes for this episode, head over to StephGaudreau.com there you can find transcripts and links to everything that Bri was mentioning. And while you’re there, check out the Tune In Membership. This is my monthly membership. The doors are currently open and it’s really for change-making women to start feeling amazing and beginning to love and accept their bodies without dieting. If you are so done with diets and diet culture and food restriction and the back and forth pendulum swing, and you’re ready for more energy, you’re ready for more peace of mind. You’re ready to find enjoyment and satisfaction with food again, then we are your community. To find out more head to StephGaudreau.com/Insider. All right. I’ll be back next week with another really great episode. I have a wonderful guest coming on who I really vibe with and I really love what she’s doing in the world, regarding unlearning diet culture. This is going to be a really powerful episode and a fantastic one to wrap up. 2020. All right. So we’ll see you then next week. And until then, be well.

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