Listen To Your Body 312Lessons You Can Learn From Your Unique Human Design w/ Erin Claire Jones

Lessons You Can Learn From Your Unique Human Design w/ Erin Claire Jones

Have you ever considered that your unique human design could help you listen to your body better? While there are tons of personality tests out there, the human design focuses less on a type and more on what you need to know about yourself to function optimally.

Listen To Your Body 312Lessons You Can Learn From Your Unique Human Design w/ Erin Claire Jones

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Key Takeaways

If You Want to Understand Yourself Better Through Human Design:

  1. Look up your human design and understand what type you relate to the strongest
  2. Connect to your own unique way of making decisions
  3. Give yourself permission to be yourself and accept that everyone else is wonderfully different
  4. Take small steps to trust in the process and what lessons you are here to learn

Understanding Human Design With Erin Claire Jones

Erin Claire Jones uses Human Design to help thousands of individuals and companies step into their work and their lives as their most authentic selves and to their highest potential. Erin works as a guide, coach, and speaker, providing practical tools, digestible tips, and deeper self-knowledge so that you can gain access to living with greater ease and authenticity every single day. 

We Are All Meant To Do Things Differently 

Understanding your human design essentially means understanding how each of us is meant to make decisions. Harnessing the innate knowing that is within you can help you govern every decision and connect you to your unique decision-making process. By understanding your specific strategy and authority, you can create space in your life for pieces of alignment to fall into place and give yourself permission to be yourself. 

Finding Beauty in the 5 Human Design Types

While human design works on a case by case basis, there are five main types that each holds unique hallmarks. Whether you are a manifesting generator, generator, projector, reflector, or manifestor, each one of us brings a different perspective and a different value to the table. When we are able to appreciate those differences, we will be brought closer together in our relationships and as a whole society. 

Are you ready to better understand your human design and use it as a tool to explore yourself and be open to new possibilities? Share what aspect of human design intrigues you the most with me in the comments below.

In This Episode

  • How human design can act as a window to understanding more about ourselves and our bodies (6:50)
  • The role of human design when honoring your inner authority and outer authorities (10:06)
  • Tips for understanding your unique human design and the five main types (17:48)
  • What to do if you don’t feel aligned with your human design type (30:30)
  • Understanding your profile and how you are meant to uniquely manifest your purpose (37:21)

Quotes

“If there is anything that human design has taught me, it’s that we are all meant to do things differently.” (10:14)

“I’m not trying to convince you of anything. Take what resonates and leave the rest. This is a tool that is meant to be a tool that empowers you but does not limit you.” (17:10)

“Once we often dive more deeply into it, once we really explore it, it often makes so much more sense.” (30:32)

“I think that often my experience makes people feel so in love with themselves, and so empowered to do things in a way that uniquely works for them.” (31:37)

“I always say that we come into this life without an operating manual, and human design just gives us the manual.” (39:40)

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Lessons You Can Learn From Your Unique Design w/ Erin Claire Jones FULL TRANSCRIPT

Steph Gaudreau
On this episode of the podcast, learn the basics of human design with my special guest, Erin Claire Jones, and hear how you can apply Human Design to listening to your body.

Steph Gaudreau
The next evolution of Harder To Kill Radio is here. Welcome to the Listen To Your Body podcast. on this show, we’ll explore the intersection of body, mind, and soul health, and help you reclaim your abilities to eat and move more intuitively, hear your body’s signals, and trust yourself more deeply.

Steph Gaudreau
I’m Steph Gaudreau, a certified intuitive eating counselor, nutritional therapy practitioner, and strength coach. On this podcast, you can expect to hear expert guest interviews and solo chats that will help you deepen your trust with food movement, and your body. Remember to hit the subscribe button and share this podcast with your friends and loved ones. Now, on to the show.

Steph Gaudreau
Hello, welcome back to the podcast. Thanks so much for joining me this week, I really appreciate it. If you’re new, hello and welcome. If you are a returning listener, thank you tremendously for your continued support and listenership it means so much to me. And I love just getting to hang out with you every week. Make sure you hit subscribe on your podcast app. If you haven’t done that way new episodes are going to roll right into your device every week. So we’re really ramping down in 2020. Here it is the beginning of the second week of December as I’m recording this. And this half of the year tends to have that kind of lower energy and we’re kind of snuggling in and snuggling up, we might not be really going many places, especially right now. But right over here, in my house, there is some excitement because I’m gearing up for a brand new season of the podcast in 2021. And that’s going to be rolling out the first week of January There are going to be some changes. I’m super excited about them and I wanted to just give a quick shout out to Angie Jordan, who is a friend of mine and a podcast strategist. And if you’ve been thinking of starting your own podcast, and you’ve been putting it off, or you’re just not sure where to go and how to start, then go get acquainted with Angie. She’s doing some incredible work in this area, and she is a master. So head over to her Instagram, Angie Jordan, you can check her out. And I don’t think she has any idea that I’m saying any of this but I just wanted to tell her that I’m so grateful for all the things that she’s helped me with, with regard to sprucing up the podcasts a little bit and giving it a bit of a new life and energy. And that’s going to be coming in early 2021.

Steph Gaudreau
Okay, before we roll into today’s special guest, Erin Claire Jones also wanted to remind you about the Tune In membership. Doors to this membership, this is my membership, it is an incredible community, a tight-knit community of people who are really looking to feel better in their bodies, and have a better relationship with food. This is for you and the doors are open. I know that there’s a tendency to say I’ll put it off until January it’s a fresh start new year new me What if you did it now, you would be rolling into the new year already set and ready to go. And you’d be proving to yourself that the dates on the calendar are really kind of arbitrary in some ways, and we don’t have to put off our health or feeling better in our body or improving our relationship with food. We don’t have to put it off, we can do it right now. There are special events that happen every month, group coaching, a monthly theme. This month, we’re talking about making peace with food and what that really means and we’re really digging into that’s so it’s good stuff. And I want you to be there. You can find out more at StephGaudreau.com/Insider. Okay, today’s special guest on the podcast is Erin Claire Jones. She is a specialist in Human Design. You may never have heard of Human Design and sometimes it’s kind of lumped into different personality tests. For example, the enneagram, Myers Briggs, maybe even Clifton strengths. It’s a way that you can get to know yourself and your body and your intuition better.

Steph Gaudreau
And Erin is really taking us through kind of the very, very basics of how you can use Human Design to listen to your body. This is such an interesting show, I learned a lot you can hear her kind of go through my human design and learn how you can apply it to your life and your work and your relationships. And it’s just so incredibly interesting. Okay, so let’s go ahead and roll into this episode about human design with Erin Claire Jones.

Steph Gaudreau
Hey, Erin, welcome to the podcast.

Erin Claire Jones
Hi, Hey, hi. So happy to be here.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, I’m glad that you reached out about the topic that we’re going to cover today because it’s something I have a lot of questions about. I’m sure it’s something that many of my listeners are curious about. A lot of them are curious about things like astrology and personality tests and understanding ourselves in different ways and in different facets. And the topic that you’re bringing to the table today is one that I have to say I found myself to be a bit on the mysterious side, and that is human design.

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, it really we were just talking before we started recording, it’s kind of like a crazy universe. So yeah, I think that it is very mysterious. It’s like cosmic in some ways, and so practical, and so actual in others, but it’s like a very dense, enormous system with like, an endless well of information.

Steph Gaudreau
Absolutely. I think one of my goals, at least with the podcasts recently has been trying to give people different access points to understand themselves, obviously, to get more connected with their bodies, to learn how to listen and tune in and perhaps take a line of action. How do you see Human Design as being maybe one of those windows or portals into understanding more about ourselves in our bodies?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, so I think that you know, I was drawn to Human Design, because I had historically explored so many systems that felt like I was, like, inundated with information, but I like never knew what to do with it and I think when I discovered Human Design, it was so accessible. And I think what I love most initially, and still, is that Human Design helps us understand how we’re each meant to make decisions. And we’re making decisions every day, you know, from choosing like who to date and which opportunities to say yes to and when to leave a job and when to start a company. And I think Human Design helps us make decisions in a much more embodied authentic aligned way because none of us are meant to make decisions from our minds. You know, none of us are meant to create like a pro-con list and rationalize something because we have such powerful minds that we can basically convince ourselves in or out of anything. And so I think that one of the most powerful tools is helping us drop into what is that innate knowing within us that is really reliable and that we can use to govern every decision, whether it’s sleeping on things and feeling things, whether it’s that kind of clear gut response, or an intuitive knowing or saying things out loud, but kind of helping people connect to their own unique way I think can be so like, easy because you can start to integrate into every decision, but also so revealing because it just allows us to make decisions in a way that really we can trust.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, I love that. I mean, how many people listening to this podcast or perhaps you and I have had those experiences where, you know, we’re taught to, like, justify our answers and explain ourselves and I mean, there’s just such a limitation to that. And like you said, totally such an opportunity to just go around and around in a circle. Right? analysis paralysis.

Erin Claire Jones
Exactly. You know, and I just think, and I always have to remind people, it’s not that I’m like dismissing the power of the mind, because obviously, the mind is extraordinarily powerful. It’s just that exactly like you said, it’s just like we can really go around and around and not actually reach a real place of clarity. And I think we have this really interesting distinction in Human Design between inner authority and outer authority. So the idea is that our inner authorities, our unique way of making decisions, how we can kind of guide our own lives, and our outer authority is our mind. That’s how we’re going to kind of inspire other people to teach other people to share insights, all the things, but we’re not really here to kind of resolve all our own stuff with our mind, but let it be an inspiration for others.

Steph Gaudreau
Hmm. I definitely see…and this is something I talk with a lot of my clients about is how our world we operate so much from external, you know, what people tell us? What is the, you know, the rule? What are the rules? What are the things that are the right thing for people like us? Yeah, are the values of everybody else and it can be really difficult for people, especially at the beginning of this journey, to allow for that in like you said, that internal wisdom to come through because there’s skepticism about it.  How do you find that that Human Design really allows for, for both of those things, like we don’t necessarily have to dismiss the rules in the external world and you know, there could be validity and some of that, but how do we allow that space for our inner knowing?

Erin Claire Jones
You know, I think that if there’s anything that human design has taught me, it’s that we’re all just meant to do things differently. And I think that like, just for context are about 2 billion different configurations. There are five different types, high level, it gets, you know, more and more specific from there. But we’re all wired to, like consume food differently to market differently, to build businesses to work to communicate, to date, all the things. And so I think that more than anything, what human design does is gives people permission to be themselves. You know, I think that most often when I’m sitting with people, I’m not telling them stuff they don’t know, it’s stuff they so intuitively know but haven’t allowed themselves to step into. So it’s not to say all of our ways of understanding things are incorrect. But all that advice out, there might not work for us. You know, like, for example, like there’s so much advice of like, follow your gut, listen to your gut, you know, like, I don’t have a really strong visceral gut response to my design or my body. And I think that like that advice never totally made sense to me, because I have intuitive knowing, but I don’t have that visceral feeling in my belly, where it’s like, in your design, it’s so present. Partners design, it’s so present, you don’t I mean, so I think it just allows you to have a little bit more of a filter and be like, oh, I see why this doesn’t work for me, because I’m wired to do it a little bit differently. Can I give myself permission to do that?

Steph Gaudreau
Absolutely. How did you come across Human Design? In your own travels? Where did it come up for you?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, I mean, so serendipitous, and weird, you know, I don’t think I could have ever predicted this would be my world. And I was, you know before he would design I was mostly working at startups in different companies. And, and, and was so interested in just like entrepreneurship in general, but I felt like I was working in all these companies that had amazing ideas and amazing people, but it felt like no one really knew how to work together. And I think my obsession was always like, with the people dynamics, and I was always kind of the person that people would come to the event and, you know, share what’s going on. And, you know, separate from that I was exploring lots of different modalities, just because like, I was so invested in my own journey and, and learning more about myself and in 2015. So it’s kind of in that in those spaces in 2015 when I was in New York, and I was at a party or a gathering, and a guy sat next to me who I’d never met before, and basically was like, I want to look up your human design. And I was like, What are you talking about? I have no idea what this is. And he looked it up. And he just gave me this really short session that was so resonant because it was the opposite of the way that I was living. And it felt so deeply like, Oh, my God, that’s me. And well, I’ve never allowed myself to own any of that. And he also ended the conversation by being like, and we’re designed to work together. And like, we’ve got to build a deal. And like, that’s not always going to be the case. But he just could, I guess, said something in my design in my in our compatibility. So I actually did end up building a company with him for two years, and then launch my own practice in 2018. But I think what really drew me to human design was beyond that initial meeting, he started to show me how human design could be used not only on an individual level, but in partnerships and with teams, and how to kind of engineer teams that were more functional by helping people better understand how differently each of them works. And I think that I just felt like the missing links and how I was like, This is such tactical, actionable information. And I just like have to find a way to make it more accessible. And I’ll say that it was like a real challenge. For the first two years, it was so new, no one had any doubt I was talking about. So it wasn’t really until early 2018. And it felt like in some ways the World Cup was actually ready for it. But yeah, I was like, super smitten from the minute I was introduced. But I also had a teacher who was like, you have to do this. And so like, he really pulled me in and invited me in.

Steph Gaudreau
I was listening to that story. I completely got goosebumps when you’re talking about how it happened. And wow, that’s very, very cool. And I love how you said you kind of had this realization that the way you were living was completely opposite of what’s indicated in your human design, you know, how do you help people? And we’ll get to, we’re gonna get to like, what is it in a second, but like, how do you rectify? Their human design may say one thing, they might be living completely different than that. Is it a situation where you’re just like, Okay, I have to change everything, or I’m going to be unhappy, or, you know, where’s the wiggle room in all that?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, I think it’s like, it’s an experiment. It’s like a step by step process. Like, I definitely didn’t like to wake up the next day. And I was like, now I’m gonna be a projector, you know what I mean? Like, it’s been like this constant, and I’m sure we’ll talk about it, but like, it’s basically like, it’s been a constant process of deconditioning. And kind of just like taking off the layers and really, you know, discovering what works best for me. So, I think that like, you know, say I have a conversation with somebody becomes very clear that where they are, their job is very out of alignment with who they are. I don’t have to tell them that they probably I just probably validate that for them. Like, you know, it’s not about like leaving that job the next day, but it’s about kind of starting to create the pathway out creating the steps like finding alignment and smaller ways in their life and kind of creating space for the bigger pieces of alignment to drop in and so, I do think that it is a kind of a step by step process. And I think the more we dive into it, like the more revealing it becomes, but also like, the more aligned we feel. So like, I will say one of my and also what human design does is it kind of reveals what lessons we’re here to learn, like, one of my biggest lessons is like not doing too much, I can be like very overzealous, and so like, that’s not a thing that I’d like, nailed. You know, I’m still learning that every day. And but I will say that when at some of the most important pieces of our design are things called our strategy and our authority. So now we’re kind of meant to create opportunities for ourselves, our strategy, our authority, how we’re meant to make decisions. So I think people having those two tools and integrating it into how they’re showing up every day, they’re going to start to kind of see transformation happen pretty quickly. But I do recommend, as you said, start in the smaller ways, like start with the smaller decisions, the smaller things, as you start to trust it, elevate it to the bigger ones.

Steph Gaudreau
I love that. Yeah, I think some people get a little bit freaked out with things, like, I mean, even your birth chart or needle chart in astrology or understanding your Myers Briggs, or, you know, what your Clifton Strengths Finder test tells you because it can often seem a little bit like, this is my fate, and I can’t, I can’t change things. And I think what I hear you saying is it, it just kind of opens these doors of curiosity to see what else is there and make that decision if you want to.

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, and it’s not predictive, like, it’s not like you’re meant to be a doctor, and you’re gonna, you know, go live in Bali, it’s very much like, this is your operating system. If you align with it, you might find more flow in your life, if you don’t, whatever, you know, like you, you get to choose that, like, I have not really had any experience in the 1000s of people that I worked with where they like, don’t want to do it, because it’s so it feels so much more natural for them. But I will also say that I work with a lot of skeptics, and a lot of people that are very new to Human Design, and a lot of teams. And so and my business partner and boyfriend is also, you know, he just like he’s so useful, because he’s like, Erin, it’s not about whether or not people believe in Human Design. The question is whether or not it’s helpful. And so I think my question for people is like, I’m not trying to convince you of anything, take what resonates, leave the rest, like this is meant to be a tool that empowers you, but does not limit you. So just like experiment with it in your own life to see how it can, you know, play that role? And if it doesn’t feel good, let it go. You know, so I think that that allows people often to enter into it a little bit more open because they get to choose how to navigate and play with it.

Steph Gaudreau
Hmm, yes, I love that. That’s, that’s awesome. And I know that there are probably some people listening to this who can resonate with that. And they’re like, oh, here they go. Again, they’re talking about weird stuff. So. So let’s dive into some of the details. Like, first of all, how does, how does someone find out like, what their human design is? How do you how do you do?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, so you go online, you need your exact time, date, and place of birth. On my website is ErinClaireJones.com/lookup where you can look it up but there are other places online as well. And you basically are going to enter that information. And it will output this crazy looking kind of chart, that’s basically a map of how the energy is moving in your body. It is not supposed to make sense. Like, if you look at it, it’s not like this thing where it just like, oh my god, yeah, everything makes sense. It’s like, Whoa, like, I have some people that just like close the tab, they’re like, that’s overwhelming. But I think that like, what you want to look at is your type, your strategy, your inner authority, those are the three pieces that I would absolutely recommend starting with, there’s so much more in terms of your profile, and your strength and all sorts of things. And the one other piece I would just share about what you’re looking at, when you look at your chart, you’ll see areas that are colored in and areas that are white, the areas that are colored in are the areas where you are drawing your energy from in a more consistent, reliable way. Kind of just like your natural strengths, and where you’re putting your energy out into the world. And the areas that are white and open are the areas where we are pulling in energy from the world around us very sensitive, which can easily get taken off track, but also very much where we’re here to really learn and become wise.

Steph Gaudreau
I love that. What if, um, what if somebody doesn’t know that information? Like, yeah, their exact location of their birth the time they were born? That kind of stuff?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, I think that if you don’t know, the location is actually more about the timezone than anything else, you know, so like, sometimes, like, I’ll just do a near city. I think in terms of the time if you don’t know the exact time like I would try a few different times throughout the day, and see how much it shifts as I sit with clients that are adopted, you know, and they don’t know their time of birth at all. And we’ll just really kind of explore the possibilities together. It’s a case by case basis, or sometimes a lot of changes, and sometimes very little does. I would say that often but not always like some of the most important aspects of your design, like the type of strategy, the authority can remain similar. There are deeper layers around like how you’re designed to digest food and like environment stuff that is very, like precise minute by minute. So in that case, I would recommend a dive into those pieces. But I would just I would encourage them to try a few different times throughout the day and start to see what shifts.

Steph Gaudreau
Okay, I think that’s going to be really helpful. So yeah, how many types are there? Okay, and what are those?

Erin Claire Jones
So we’ve gotten manifesting generators, generators, projectors, reflectors, and manifestors.

Steph Gaudreau
Okay? And if you could kind of give the quick, like, a cliff note version of which, what, like, what are some of the hallmarks of those types?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah. So I’m going to group manifesting generators and generators together for a second and then separate just because they do share a strategy. So manifesting generators and generators and your manifesting generator, which I know, you know, but manifesting generators and generators are the ones that have this like life force of vitality to kind of make things happen, they’re kind of designed a wake up in the morning with a full tank of energy to use of their energy in ways that feel so super satisfying to them, and then kind of crash and like, recharge, the more they’re using their energy in ways that feel good, the more energy they’ll have, and the more they’ll uplift everyone around them. And the more magnetic they become, and the more they’re saying, Yes, just because they think they should, the quicker their battery will drain. And so really important for these types of we kind of just take inventory and make sure they’re really being so discerning about what they’re saying yes to and having really strong boundaries. And the difference here between the two is that manifesting generators often are a little bit multi-passionate by nature, they like having their energy and different things, you know, they might like, have a podcast and be a coach and be a lawyer and be a mom, like, they just like, sometimes they’ve been made to feel scattered or go doing too much. But they actually like that level of stimulation can be really satisfying for them. And they can move pretty quickly. So it’s really good to have people around them that can like handle the step by step. And it’s so important for them to kind of pivot on from something in the energy is no longer there. generators are kind of more about mastery going deep into something. And then when it’s time moving on. And the last piece that I would share in both those types is that their strategy is called waiting to respond, also known as magnetism. The idea is that you’re not really designed to chase after things like your workers are going to keep your awareness open and see what shows up in your world and kind of inspires your gut response and letting that drive you. How’s that feel to you? Does that resonate with you?

Steph Gaudreau
It does, yeah. Well, we were talking earlier about the sort of like different ways that you kind of sense your inner knowing. And I’m a total like, I’m a total gut person. Yeah.

Erin Claire Jones
And you got a little bit of nuance in your design work. Even though you’ve got a super strong gut response for the big decisions, you’re meant to like, give it a beat, like sleep on things, and give yourself a couple of days before you commit to, kind of, assess that that initial instinct is right. But yeah, you’ve got a super strong very alive gut in your design.

Steph Gaudreau
Yes. And I am the prototypical. I’m actually in terms of Clifton’s strengths, I’m an activator, which is probably one of my number one. It’s like in the top three, which is I want to do things and I want to do them now. And yeah, I do kind of I love the satisfaction of kind of waking up in the morning. The morning is my most productive, like, creative time. And then by the end of the day, I just want to feel like I’m ready to go to bed. And that’s that.

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, I like it’s good to like, get out the energy, you know what I mean? I just like to use it all up. So you’re like, I’m pooped, I’m ready to sleep. You know, like, if you have a generator or manifesting generator kid, and you’re like giving them a set bedtime, and they haven’t fully used up their energy, it’s gonna be so challenging for them to go to bed. You know, and so it’s just like, there is something about like, I’ve used it all up in ways I feel good. I’m ready to recharge.

Steph Gaudreau
Absolutely. Now, you said you’re a projector? Uh-huh. How does that? How does that compare?

Erin Claire Jones
Oh my god. so different. So like projectors are really here to kind of be the advisors, the leaders, the guides, the teachers not here do all the doing, we just don’t often have that same sustainable energy like doo doo doo doo doo. So if so much of our lesson is not finding our worth and how much we do but more like, in our perspective, our sensitivity to other people in our ability to kind of guide others you know, that might be as a therapist or coach, a CEO, a manager, often we make that our managers and doers. And you know, there’s so many different expressions of this. But projectors are often kind of obsessed with people what makes people tick. And like, That’s such a powerful insight that they carry. And, and you know, we often love systems like anything that helps us understand people. So like human design, it was like a very easy thing for me to fall into. So so much of being a projector is learning how to honor those ebbs and flows of your energy because we often don’t know when to stop, so we keep going. But when we’re around people like you that are super lit up, we can like magnify that energy and we get super excited. And the strategy for projectors is basically around waiting for a sense of recognition and invitation ideas because you bring such a unique energy to the table, it’s important to kind of feel invited in and recognize that doesn’t come for everything that’s mostly around like when you’re really sharing your gifts with people when you’re working with someone dating someone living with someone. And I think that one of the biggest strategies for projectors is basically about making yourself visible and letting people know that you exist and making yourself available to be invited in and available to be recognized. So I’d encourage the projectors to kind of just reflect on where in your life you feel the most invited in and where you feel the most recognized. Make sense?

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah.

Erin Claire Jones
Then we’ve got manifestors. So manifestors are the ones that are here to initiate, get things started, get the ball rolling, not always going to do all the doing themselves, but often just to get the thing off the ground, they were kind of innovative by nature and can kind of see the future and see where things are going and just be like a little bit of everyone else’s like a little bit behind the times. And it’s good to have the right support around them so they aren’t doing all the doing and they know when to hand things off. And they often are pretty comfortable in solitude and being left alone to do what they please. And their strategy is both about initiating, so making the first move, but also about informing, so really kind of communicating and keep keeping the people around them in the loop of what they’re choosing and when. So like if a manifestor just like leaves a room and doesn’t say anything, people can really feel it, you know, or if they go in a direction with a project and don’t tell anyone. So like when they’re just like keeping the people around them in the loop, they might find so much more ease in their life. It’s not about asking for permission, it’s not about exploiting themselves, it’s just giving people an FYI.

Steph Gaudreau
Hmm.

Erin Claire Jones
And then we’ve got reflectors and reflectors are basically you know, we call them kind of our collective mirror is these are people that are incredibly sensitive their physical space, and basically taking in everything in their space and magnifying it out. And so you really get a good sense of how a community is doing a team is doing, a family is doing just by how the reflector is showing up. So so important for the reflector to be such a ruthless curator of who and where they’re spending time because they’re going to magnify whatever energy that is. And one of the kinds of the hallmarks of a reflector. This can be true for other types, but it’s so central to being a reflector is that their identity is so fluid, they’re probably gonna feel different at different times in their life or at different people in different spaces. So their job is not to figure out who they are and try to be just one thing, but to really kind of embrace how fluid they are and ask themselves, like, what feels like me today, you know, I’m just gonna flow with that rather than like, I got to figure out who I am and be super consistent. So I think embracing the inconsistency and the magic because like, they might have periods where they feel like a manifesting generator, like a generator, like a projector, like a manifestor, and the work is that kind of flow with where they are. So those are the types high level.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, super interesting.

Erin Claire Jones
Hearing them all. Do you still feel like you resonate most with a manifesting generator? One?

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I mean, my husband calls me the workhorse…

Erin Claire Jones
You got the capacity for it.

Steph Gaudreau
He’s like if Steph is going to do something like, you know, I’ll tell him, Okay, I’m gonna sit down and do some work and then two hours later, I’ve got like a 20, page PDF, and he’s like, how did you? How did you even do that? How did you make that happen? And I’m like, I don’t know if it’s really aligned for me, then…

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, you can make it happen immediately.

Steph Gaudreau
Yeah, absolutely.

Erin Claire Jones
And you’ve so got that in your design, like beyond being a manifesting generator. Like once you have the clarity that something’s the right use of your energy, you can just like make it happen so fast. Like you can basically bring it to life pretty immediately. So yeah, that’s amazing. I have a generator, boyfriend, and it’s just like, so amazing to watch him work and do his stuff. Because I’m like, I’m so different than you. But I love being around you, you know. So it gives us a lot of permission to just be different.

Steph Gaudreau
Definitely. On the flip side of that, though, if I know something isn’t super aligned, or there’s a reason, there’s just something that’s not like the energy isn’t there, it’s not flowing, it’s, it’s not the right fit. Yeah, it will look, it literally feels like there’s a wall around that thing, or it just doesn’t, it doesn’t flow. I was recently putting together a sales page for one of my new programs that I’m currently running as this podcast comes out, and I’ll tell you what, there was just something about the copy ID that wasn’t working and when I finally just sat down and let myself write about what I wanted to write about, it had the whole thing done in like four hours. So then I had been putting it off for days and days and days, because it just didn’t, just didn’t feel right.

Erin Claire Jones
Mm-hmm. no, it’s so interesting, because it’s such a good question for you is like is the energy there for right now. You know, and like when it’s not like giving yourself permission to pivot and move on and like, maybe come back, but like, when the energy is there, that’s when you can make things happen. Like, if it’s not really there, it’s gonna be there’s gonna be so much more resistance and like trying to bring that thing to life. And like, and so much of your design specifically is very much about like, just doing things your way, like following your own convictions, making your own voice, like you empower other people by being so self-empowered yourself. You empower other people to kind of get in touch with their convictions by following your own. And so I think that every part of your life just doing things in the way that like so uniquely works for you knowing that might look so different than the people around you.

Steph Gaudreau
Working on that, easier some days than others. Um, are there ever times where people, figure out what their, you know, their main design is, and they’re just like, Oh, no, not that one. Because I know that there are certain personality tests or things like that, where people just think oh, effect. I don’t want to be that that thing, right. I don’t want to be an obliger in the four tendencies quiz, or, you know, I can’t believe I’m this. Does that ever happen with human design in your experience?

Erin Claire Jones
I haven’t had it happen very often, I think that what I would say is that there’s a lot of weird information out on the internet. And like, some of it is not very useful. In terms of like, I think my job is to make it feel really empowering and simple and actionable. But sometimes people come in, they’re like, I’m a generator, I don’t want to be like a doer, I’m supposed to work for other people. But that’s really not how it works at all, you know. So it’s like, once we often dive more deeply into it, my experience, definitely, people come to me, and they’re like, I don’t know about this. But once we really explore it, it often makes so much more sense. You know, and so I haven’t really had the experience of people being like, I don’t want to be this, I think because it often like when they really think about it makes them feel very real to you that they get to be that. And I also just think there’s like no good or bad and Human Design, you know, it’s not like, I find the more people experiment, their design, the more they like, are obsessed with their design. Like, I’m so glad I’m a manifesting generator, or a manifestor, or projector, you know, but I haven’t really had that experience. And the one experience I would share, and this was probably four years ago, now I was sitting with a friend, I wasn’t even doing a session for him. And I shared with him about his design, and it was and he was like, I don’t want to operate that way. I was like, sure, then don’t you know, but I was like, how does it feel to operate in the way that you are, which is obviously the opposite of your design? And he was like, I mean, it feels terrible. And it’s not what I was like, I can’t help you, then you don’t I mean, like, if you’re, if you’re working in a way that isn’t working, and you’re resistant to any other way, then like, there’s nothing I can do for you. And but I think that like in a moment like that, it just was so obvious. I was like, Oh, you’re just like, you know, you’re not really open to that. But I think that you know, what you’re doing is not working. So I think that it often my experience makes people feel so in love with themselves and actually so empowered to do things in a way that uniquely works for them, I was very worried that it would feel more boxy or more restrictive. And I just like, surprisingly, have not had that experience.

Steph Gaudreau
I love that. Like I said there are certain…even enneagram, which I find extremely confusing. And we talked about that before the show. I don’t know, I always get a different result whenever I take any enneagram test. So Myers Briggs, do I always get a different one? Myers Briggs, I’m always squarely in an INFJ. Yeah, but the enneagram and like, whatever, I don’t get it. But there’s a lot of people listening to this that are gonna tell me that they have the person to help me figure it out, I’m sure. But I will say that you know, one of the things that I really I liked about or you know, when I’ve looked into human design is, it seems less of like, there’s a best, you know, there’s not the best way. And, like you said, kind of gives insight for each individual person, which I think is, yeah, it’s great. It’s easier to not want to, you know, reject that because we all think like, oh, there’s better types than others, which is just not the case at all.

Erin Claire Jones
And I think it like more than anything, it’s just like, taught me that we need each other. You know, like as a projector, it’s like, I’m so blessed to have a generator partner, you know? And like, I think when building teams is so fun, because it’s not like, no, it’s not everyone just brings a totally different perspective at a totally different value. And so I think that it like it actually brings us even though it reminds us that we’re all different, it brings us closer together, but when we kind of start to appreciate those differences.

Steph Gaudreau
Random question, but yeah, like, I know, when you get your actual, if people are looking at their, you know, their design, their little chart, they’re gonna think, Oh, my gosh, we’re all these organs and like, all this stuff, and how does that? How does that connect to the different types?

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, so all those centers in our on our chart are basically kind of different energetic centers that do correspond to parts of our body. And so I think when I dive in with sessions, and there’s like a part of their body where they’re having an issue where there’s some chronic pain like it often is really attached to one of those centers and whether or not they’re really kind of like, in the wisdom of it, you know, like, you know, that gut center that kind of, there’s a red one of the bottom for you, which is so powerful, that’s your kind of gut response, but I find when people aren’t listening or kind of tuning into that, that response, and you know, then they might really be really disconnected or might have gut issues or tummy issues or any of those things. Whereas like for you, one of the areas where you’re really here to learn is your root center, and that is the same center as the adrenals. And basically, the potential shadow for you is a tendency to kind of always be in a hurry and feeling pressure to do things very quickly, and always trying to get out from under the pressure. And so so much of the lesson is about knowing that not everything is worth hurting for and so being so discerning about what’s worth hearing from what’s not but I do find that when people are kind of in that hurry all the time or not correctly or leveraging that center then like they can that can really show up in the adrenals but yeah, different areas like you know with like the head it can be the migraines, but they all different courts, they all correspond to the kind of different areas in our body.

Steph Gaudreau
Yes, yeah, I’m notorious and I, you know, we’re gonna have to have my husband do his design because I just based on your description, I’d have to think about like, which one I could probably guess that he is, but he’s not a manifesting generator.

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah, I’m wondering what is a projector?

Steph Gaudreau
He’s probably a projector, I think but it’s really interesting because, you know, I’m sort of like, as somebody who’s in business, I’m always thinking, how am I gonna do the next thing? What’s the next thing? How am I gonna make it happen? And he’s always like, what is your hurry? Yes. And I’m like, the things and the thing, and I just want to get it out there and, you know, like, make an impact. And he’s just like, just chill out. Which is no, my nature.

Erin Claire Jones
Yeah. And I think that like, and it’s so I think for you, it’s just like, it’s just a thing to be aware of. It’s so funny when I see people with that open roots and are like you like, they’re often like in the grocery store, like racing through the grocery store, you know, and it’s just like, wait, what am I hurry? You know, like, so I think that what’s so interesting about the open areas is that they’re just not meant to drive our decision making like you’re meant to kind of make decisions from that clear kind of gut response you felt into it, you know, it’s correct and not from like, I’ve got to just get free and get out from underneath this pressure. But because you actually are here to learn an area, it means you can be so useful for other people and helping them know what to return for helping them relax, you know, like, helping them slow down, because that’s the kind of you’re here to learn yourself.

Steph Gaudreau
Mm-hmm. Yeah, one of my favorite things, when I feel like that is actually physically moving slower, as if, at it’s almost, I mean, I don’t move as slow as if I was in a slow-motion video, but I purposely slow down my motion through the world, to, to help slow down that kind of urge or that feeling in my head. And it’s, it’s really interesting, right? That body kind of body-mind connection? How much that actually really helps.

Erin Claire Jones
I love that. Yeah, that’s such a powerful practice as a way to just even remind yourself to like that. It’s just not all worth running for, you know, definitely happened right now.

Steph Gaudreau
Is there anything else? This is me being selfish? Is there anything else in my, in my design that you saw that you were like, Ooh, this is, oh, this is strange, or interesting?

Erin Claire Jones
I think that like, you know, I talked about the, like, the conviction that kind of just you have all like, you have basically every possible strength that is very much around like, again, like I said, being so self-empowered, and like, following your own convictions and speaking your truth, and like, so I just think that like, you know, for you, it’s really learning how to be like healthily, selfish, and knowing that by honoring your own desires, you’re so empowering for other people. And, you know, I think that what’s also interesting with this, and like color profile and Human Design, and it basically is how we’re here kind of uniquely manifest our purpose. And so for you, it’s very much through your community. Like, it’s very much through your network and the people that you know, so kind of always cultivating and keeping a really strong community is so powerful because your network is such a powerful well of opportunity for you.

Erin Claire Jones
And so just like leveraging that, you know, and you’ve also got this very, like teacher role, model nature, and your design, where you’ve got such a gift for kind of just like offering like a very objective perspective, a very optimistic one that can really kind of change the way that people see and think. And that’s actually meant to just like, keep getting better over time. So you’re actually meant to hit your prime when you turn 50. You know, it didn’t know what the same thing in my design. And like, when I first discovered that I’m like, I’m gonna wait till I’m 50, I’m ready now. And like, there’s nothing to wait for, you know what I mean? It’s just like, it’s more, it’s just meant to keep getting better, like that role model piece is always there, you know, and I just kind of meant to keep expressing myself in a more and more embodied way, or at a certain point you, like, inspire authenticity by just being yourself.

Steph Gaudreau
Love that. I don’t know if you knew this, but I was a high school teacher for 12 years so teaching and you’re doing all right, very, very essential to who I am. And I love that part of what I do, especially when I’m working with people, coaching is so natural.

Erin Claire Jones
One more thing. Also, like one of your just because you said something about the podcast, like you also got such a knack and your design for just like creating such intimacy with people, like kind of penetrating into people’s energy and making them feel so cozy and connected, you know, in that connection. So you know, whether it’s teaching or coaching or talking to people on the podcast, you know, it’s such a beautiful one to leverage.

Steph Gaudreau
Awesome. Well, this has been so fun. I appreciate you walking us through human design on kind of that higher level, but also keeping it really practical, giving me some more insight into my particular design. But if people want to visit your site, get involved with what you’re doing, or for you, how can you do that?

Erin Claire Jones
So I’m Erin Claire Jones everywhere. I share a lot on Instagram and that’s Erin Claire Jones, my website is ErinClaireJones.com. And if you want to dive deeper, one of the most accessible offerings is something that I do is called a blueprint, which is basically a 30 page PDF on your unique design. So I make each of them and it basically kind of walks you through all the key pieces. I always say that we come into this life without an operating manual Human Design just gives us the manual. And so the blueprint is meant to kind of be a manual that you can keep returning to like all the things we’ve talked about today it’s not about being like this is a number in Human Design, it’s more just about like telling you what you need to know without having to like study the system. And the URL for that is ErinClaireJones.com/blueprint and we’ll do a 10% discount, so you’ll let me know what you want the code to be. And then I also do individual sessions, partnership sessions, team sessions, workshops, all those things.

Steph Gaudreau
Awesome. Yes. And we will link that code in the show notes so if people want to go grab that and get an insight into their human design, they can do that. And that was very generous of you. This has been so great. I really appreciate you coming on the podcast. Thanks for reaching out. It’s been, it’s been wonderful. And I hope that this tool becomes something that people can use to explore themselves and open up new possibilities. So I really appreciate it.

Erin Claire Jones
Yes, thank you so much for having me on. It’s been such a treat. Thank you.

Erin Claire Jones
Alright, that’s a wrap on this episode with Erin Claire Jones. Human Design, I hope you learned something I sure did. And remember that Erin shared a coupon code for you to get 10% off your blueprint. That coupon code is Steph, s.t.e.p.h. So thank you so much to her for doing that. If you want the show notes for this episode, you can find them at StephGaudreau.com Are you a member of the Tune In Insiders community yet? In this membership group, our goal is to help you improve your relationship with food and your body. Whether you’ve just heard about intuitive eating recently, you’ve been practicing it on your own, you want more energy, and you really want to appreciate and love your body. without dieting, then this every month, you’ll get activities that are designed to help you make progress with your own relationship with food and your body. This work is truly experiential. You can read about it in a book and you can hear about it on a podcast. But putting it into practice with support and people who understand what you’re going through. With guided activities that really help you make progress is worth everything. Your health matters. You deserve to have a peaceful relationship with food and your body. You can join anytime. You can cancel at any time. And we would just love to see you there. You can find out more and enroll at StephGaudreau.com/Insider. Alright, that does it for this week. Stay tuned for next week. I am so excited about my guest she is the best and we’re going to be talking more about body image so if this is an area you want to learn more about and you want to heal then join us for next week’s episode. All right. Until then, be well.

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