When you think about diet culture, do you think about how it has affected your relationship with fitness? Often times we focus on how diet culture impacts our relationship with food, but it also has a profound effect on our connection to exercise and fitness.
The fitspo mentality promotes a narrow ideal that is widely unachievable, keeps us stuck in the patriarchal system of having to prove our worth, and harms us by taking us further away from listening to our bodies.
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If You Are Ready To See Fitspo Die You Should:
- Get curious about how diet culture shows up in your life in a non-judgemental way
- Redefine what fitness means to you and how you can enjoy it without trying to change your body
- Reject the ‘no days off’ mentality and start listening to the signals from your body telling you what it needs
The Real Meaning Of Fitness
Dan John defines fitness as your ability to do a task. That’s it. Nothing about the way you look, the amount of muscle you have, or your ability to look like the ‘fit’ people you see on Instagram.
Society has adopted coded language around fitness that seeks to limit and control a woman’s ability to show up in a certain way when it comes to fitness. In reality, you can include movement in your life in a way that is healthy for you right now and has no connection to the way you look. Your relationship with exercise should bring you satisfaction and make you feel good in your here and now body without the pressure of intentional weight-loss or body changes.
How Fitspo Harms Us
Fitspo harms us in more ways than one. Firstly, it promotes a narrow and privileged version of a certain ‘look’. It also promotes a ‘no days off’ mentality, that scares us into believing that if we rest, we are not worthy, are not strong, or are going to lose our gains. This is simply not true and keeps us stuck in the mentality of proving our worth and exercising solely to change the way our bodies look.
One of the biggest ways fitspo harms us is by preventing us from listening to our bodies. Your body will tell you if it needs rest and if it is enjoying the type of movement you are engaging with. While getting to know your body in the physical exercise capacity is very personal and takes time, listening to your body’s signals is the only way that you are going to get over the fitspo mentality.
Are you ready to embrace a version of fitness that is accessible, inclusive, and doesn’t focus on changing your body? Share how you are embracing movement for the sake of movement and rejecting the fitspo life in the comments below.
In This Episode
- Defining what fitness really is and why we need to broaden our understanding of it (3:55)
- Why the words used around fitness and fitspo promote a narrow ideal look (9:36)
- How the ‘no days off’ mentality continues to keep us stuck in proving our worth and value based on our fitness (13:40)
- The role of social media when promoting fitness as a weight-loss tool (18:56)
- How fitspo is harming us by preventing us from listening to our bodies feedback (22:44)
“Diet culture doesn’t just impact your relationship with food, it also has a prevalent impact on how we see fitness talked about, displayed, and some of the mentalities that are related to fitness.” (3:01)
“Dan John says fitness is your ability to do a task, so right there, your ability to do a task, your ability to complete a specific physical task typically is what fitness really is. And yet we as a society constantly reduce fitness to a look.” (7:49)
“If you are pursuing a specific type of fitness because there is a promise of a specific aesthetic look, is that actually 1) realistic for your body type? And 2) is it actually really bringing you a sense of fulfillment?” (12:45)
“It’s worth thinking about how pushing through and saying ‘I can’t take any days off, I am not allowed a rest day if I take a rest day I’m lazy, I’m a loser, I’m a slacker, I’m going to lose all of my progress’, how does that mentality keep us from really tuning in and listening to our bodies?” (24:00)
“The other way that fitspo harms us is it takes the emphasis off all of the other reasons why exercise can be fun and beneficial that have really nothing to do with weight loss or body size control.” (28:55)
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Why Fitspo Needs To Die Us FULL TRANSCRIPT
This is Episode 319 of the Listen To Your Body podcast. On today’s show, I’m talking about why Fitspo needs to die.
The listen to your body podcast has one bold mission, to help change-making women like you give themselves radical permission to listen to their bodies get free with food and fitness, and channel their energy, and be a force for good in the world. I’m a certified intuitive eating counselor, nutritional therapy practitioner, and strength coach Steph Gaudreau. This weekly show brings you discussions around dropping diet and exercise extremes, letting your inner wisdom lead, and taking up space from an inclusive body neutrality health at every size, non-diet nutrition perspective, we’ll examine how diet culture and the patriarchy keep women busy and distracted by the quest for body perfection, and how we can break free to live life on our own terms. It’s bound to be fiery, and ultimately, to make you think, hit subscribe on your favorite podcast app. And let’s dive in.
Welcome back to the podcast. Thank you so much for being here with me today. Just fair warning, if you hear a bunch of noise in the background, it is so windy today here in San Diego. I don’t know what’s going on. But the house has been shaking a little bit. So fair warning, if you hear a little bit of background noise. On today’s show, we are going to be getting into it talking about why we are not about that fits bow life. We are not about the no days off mentality, and how those things actually take us further away. from listening to our bodies treating ourselves with kindness and respect, it will get a little bit spicy, I am sure. So far on this new season, which started a few episodes ago. We’ve touched on what diet culture is how it keeps women busy and is related to the patriarchy, and really comes from the patriarchy. And some of the ways in which diet culture has really failed us. Today’s topic is really going to dive into the fitness aspect of all of this because our focus so far is really kind of been on food and talking about our bodies. But diet culture doesn’t just impact your relationship with food. It also has a prevalent impact on how we see fitness, talked about displayed, and some of the mentalities that are related to fitness. Remember, we have a diet mentality that comes from diet culture. And that really does overlap with fitness. So we’re going to talk about this today. In the past, I have had so many incredible guests who have touched on different aspects of this. So suffice to say we will try to link up a couple of those episodes in the show notes if you want to keep diving in deeper. But it’s really important to reframe why Fitspo needs to die, why it keeps us limited, and how the concept of no days off is not actually helping you in any way. So we’re going to tease some of this apart today.
The first thing to define is what fitness really is. and fitness. Most people associate with a certain look. Let’s be honest, Fitspo, and whether you go on Pinterest, or you look at Instagram, fitness is portrayed as having a very specific, very narrow look. And my friend Chrissy King has an amazing article about this. She really started to talk more about this a few years ago with the idea that if you go on to Google and you Google ‘Fit woman’, what will typically come up is a thin white woman. And I will see if we can link Chrissy’s article here in the show notes but suffice to say, fitness is still portrayed as a look at a very specific and narrow. Look at that usually someone who is thin or even now a little bit more somebody who has a particular kind of muscle tone. And if we’re talking about women, it’s usually slightly muscled, but not too muscley. And this plays into, again, this patriarchal idea that we are not, we can never win, right? We’re either too thin, or we have too much quote me on our bones, or we are too fat, or we have muscle, but it’s too much. And it makes us look manly, right? So we’re simultaneous, as a collective, as women are either not enough, we don’t look good enough. We don’t have enough muscle, we whatever, or we’re too much. And so it’s, it’s a constant distraction because we’re always trying to fulfill this ideal that we can never reach. So we think that fitness has a look. And we see that this gets reinforced over and over and over again.
So it’s hard to imagine a definition of fitness that’s broader because we don’t see it being portrayed. And we can talk about algorithms and, and stuff like that all day long. But suffice to say there are some broader voices, some more diversity is really stepping into the fitness space. And I think it’s important that we continue to seek out those folks to go follow them. Recently on Instagram, I was talking to somebody about intuitive eating, and they said, Gosh, it just seems like intuitive eating is only for people who are thin. And I think that that is an interesting observation. Because yes, we still see that in the nutrition space, by and large, are people who are in a body that has thin privilege. And there’s also a double standard because if a nutritionist or a fitness trainer comes out on the scene, and they don’t have that very specific, very narrow, ideal body shape, or type, people automatically discredit them and think that they cannot possibly have any expertise. So it’s, you know, it’s kind of a chicken-egg scenario, we see that reinforced over and over again. But here’s the thing, fitness. And I love this definition from Dan John, who is a pretty old school strength coach who has been around in the strength world for a really long time. Dan, John says fitness is your ability to do a task. So right there, your ability to do a task, your ability to complete a specific physical task typically is what fitness really is. And yet we as a society, constantly reduce fitness to a look.
And it’s very, very limiting. So in this episode, we’re going to talk about some of this nuance. The first thing is, you know, it’s one thing to bring this up on the podcast, but it’s something to keep noticing, right? Notice it out in your life, notice how your view your thoughts and beliefs, and feelings about fitness, for example, maybe mirrored in this more narrow view. Or notice as you go about your daily life, how these thoughts about taking an off day or, you know, the No pain, no gain mentality is still there with you and get curious about it. That’s the whole point of this podcast is not that you just listen to me and think, Oh, well, she’s right. But it is to stay open to and get curious about how this impacts you. in your own life. How does it show up for you? And do it from a place of nonjudgmental awareness? I know that that sounds easier said than done. But really saying, hmm, where does this come from? How does this play out? And how my own relationship with food and exercise and my body has really gone on throughout my life? And what am I open to investigating? What am I open to becoming more curious about? What am I open to exploring? What am I open to really changing so let’s go through a few of these things?
Alright, first of all, why Fitspo needs to die. Fitspo as we’ve already said that fit fitspiration is really where the term Fitspo comes from. But this idea of fitspiration Yes, we’ve said promotes a very narrow, ideal look, but it’s also codified in the words around fitness. So for example, toned I hate the word toned in the context of exercise, but specifically how it’s used in a coalified way to mean a little bit of muscle, but not too much, because I don’t want to look like a man. And yes, you get to decide what you want your body to look like, because that’s body autonomy and the type of movements that you prioritize or not. But suffice to say is to notice where we, as a society have adopted codifying language that really seeks to limit or control, specifically women’s ability to show up in a certain way when it comes to fitness. So that’s one rate toned, and I have a whole episode about toning, and why this is a problem and it goes into more details. So you can go ahead and look for that in the show notes. Another one is lean or long and lean. And specifically, we see this in certain fitness circles, promoting a long and lean book, look, you cannot lengthen a muscle it is physically attached to the bone via a tendon, so you can’t actually lengthen, lengthen it, you can’t make it longer. Now, could you make a muscle less tight or really a trigger points, obviously, yes. But what long and lean is used again to signal is this idea of looking smaller, looking thinner, not looking too muscled, not looking, too masculine, and so on, and so forth. And then how it affects how people interact with or pursue specific kinds of fitness and then judge themselves or become angry at themselves or judgmental with themselves when their bodies don’t look like that, because I can tell you this very much, me for Personally, I pick up a weight a few times, and I just have that more muscled body type. So I’m never going to be that much thinner, quote, long and lean body type, it’s never going to happen. And so think about if you are pursuing a specific kind of fitness because there is a promise of a specific aesthetic? Look, is that actually one realistic for your body type? And two? Is it actually really bringing you a sense of fulfillment?
Because if you’re only ever participating in that fitness activity, because you want the specific look, and the specific look isn’t happening? How is that affecting your enjoyment of that activity, for example? So that’s just the first thing to know. Right, Fitspo, when you look it up, when you look at Fitness accounts, typically, online, social media is changing a little bit, we’re seeing more body diversity there. But it’s still very codified, right. And you can say, on the flip side, if you are a man or somebody who is male identifying in your gender, you know, there is oftentimes a pressure for men to be very muscular, very big and bigorexia is something that a lot of men specifically are dealing with in increasing numbers, right, because there’s this pressure to look a specific way on the flip side of things.
The next reason why Fitspo needs to die is that the no days off life, right? This like no days off, kind of rally cry continues to keep us stuck in proving our worth and value based on how hard or how extreme we can push ourselves in our fitness. Right? So let’s think about this. We have this still. I mean, this is we’re almost at the kind of one year mark, we’re creeping up on one year of in the United States, at least COVID being a thing, and really significantly having to restrict our social interaction and so on and so forth, which caused a lot of gyms to close down or change the way that people really interacted with fitness. And yet, and there are so to mental and emotional and spiritual and physical stress drain still on people and yet we have this pressure of like no days off, go harder. How hard can you push it? And it’s really a bit of a problem or a big problem because we already have an increased stress load for so many reasons. And that’s a weak collective. Obviously, your particular situation may be different. But so many people that I’ve talked to in my community are like I just don’t have the motivation to work out to the capacity that I used to. And maybe that was like four to five days of very, very intense exercise or even every single day intense exercise or one rest day. And my question is, well, how are you? How is your energy being affected by the pandemic? How is your energy being affected by your change in work-home life, your change in maybe financial situation, your change in your health? So it’s not enough to say, hey, just go harder? or Why can’t you just maintain it’s really looking at? How am I being impacted? And how do I want to show up and include movement in my life in a way that is healthy for me right now, if I’m super stressed, I’m already drained, then piling on a bunch of intense exercise on top of that is likely to not actually help me feel better. And it can impact things like your health, right?
Through even things like depressing your immune system, if you are someone with a chronic medical condition. So for example, a lot of people in my community have autoimmunity. And they’re really trying to kind of get a handle on that so that they’re not in an autoimmune flare. And so really honoring where you’re at with that, right? If your Hashimoto’s, for example, is not being managed really well, at the moment, then doing a bunch of intext intense exercise on top of that, or saying no days off, is unlikely to be helping you come into a more balanced place with that. And then also, just to know that there are no days off life, right, we’re still in that mindset, then that can further push us into the idea of over-exercise, or even exercise bulimia. And it’s worthwhile if you’re thinking about improving your relationship with food, to think what is my relationship with exercise? Me personally, I used to have a very unhealthy relationship with exercise. It was always for the purpose of shrinking my body and making myself smaller and losing weight on the scale and controlling my body and numbing my feelings, and so on and so forth. So if you know that your relationship with food is something that you’re working on, it’s worthwhile to say, what is that relationship with exercise is it really healthy for you, and that is very individual.
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The next thing I would say is that when it comes to fits bow and the no days off life. Fitness is really sold on social media as a weight-loss tool. And I don’t talk a lot about intentional weight loss from the perspective of how do you do intentional weight loss, because it’s obviously a very conflicting and contradictory thing within intuitive eating or trying to improve our relationship with food. If the body changes as a result of that, then that could be considered a side effect. But we also know that weight loss is not a behavior. So if the body changes because we have a healthier relationship with food, that’s one thing but pursuing intentional weight loss really oftentimes does come down to intentional dieting, and or you’re changing the behaviors of your life anyway. So what are the behaviors that you want to change? Why can’t we just focus on that? And it’s really because we have to tease apart. We in health, which is a whole other conversation in and of itself. However, fitness on social media, predominantly or on the internet is sold as a weight-loss tool. I can’t tell you how many trainers I see who are constantly posting their clients and before and after pictures and saying like this client, you know, shrunk their body by this much, or this is how they look now. And look, I can’t tell other people how to run their business. But personally, when I look at that, I think, Okay, well, what is this promoting? Right, it is promoting that the change in the body size is the most important thing. And what else is there about that about this client that they actually changed? They improved?
So it’s tricky, because we see it all the time, and we don’t question it. And yet, when we look at weight, when we look at exercise as a tool for weight loss studies consistently demonstrate that exercise is not an effective weight-loss strategy. So do we see the disconnect there? Right, if we’re we’re seeing exercise and fitness being sold as the primary way to impact weight or body size, that’s at odds with what evidence-based studies actually tell us in the first place. So that’s a problem. The next thing about fits Bo is that it oftentimes ignores the ideas or the issues of accessibility and representation and how that can affect participation. So are we seeing images? And are we seeing it being portrayed out there in the world that, for example, fitness is something that older folks can participate in, or disabled folks, or folks in larger bodies? Or are we seeing fitness always being portrayed as something for thin white women or cis-gendered? folks? Do transgender folks feel safe in gym environments? and so on and so forth? Or just what is the accessibility of fitness out there in the world? And right now, what I still see is that Fitspo is primarily ignoring these issues. So again, I’m not the most eloquent speaker on this. And there are so many wonderful people in the fitness world who are addressing these things head-on.
But my main purpose here is just to increase acknowledgment and keep this top of mind in conversation and bring it up. Okay, a couple of other things. The No pain, no gain, no days off mentality really keeps us from tuning into and listening to our bodies. So I want to talk about how specifically how Fitspo really harms us. It this idea of, I can’t take any days off, I can’t rest, I have to push through the pain. First of all, soreness is very individual. If you had to do the toilet trust fall, which is you know, your quads are so fried that in order to sit down on the toilet, you kind of have to just fall back and trust that you’re going to land on the toilet seat. That is usually as a result of what’s called, Dom’s delayed onset muscle soreness and some gentle movement may help you feel a little bit better. But going out and smashing another hard workout when you already have Dom’s is not going to help because that is microscopic muscle damage that is resulting in that delayed onset muscle soreness. And yes, everybody has their own tolerance of soreness. Some people like a little bit of feeling of soreness. But it’s worth thinking about how pushing through and saying I can’t take any days off. I’m not allowed to rest every day. If I take a rest day. I’m lazy. I’m a loser. I’m a slacker. I’m going to lose all my progress, right? How does that mentality keep us from really tuning in and listening to our bodies? And this is a very individual journey for people because to really start to know your body is in the fitness kind of movement capacity, the exercise capacity is really personal. For example, I know that if I go and pick up a barbell, because of experience, I know if that barbell feels right about the right weight, then it means that my body is ready to do a strength workout that day. If I pick up a barbell and the bar feels very heavy, that for me is a signal and a sign that maybe it’s time to pick some other movement for the day, maybe a lighter workout, maybe more of a cardiovascular workout, maybe some mobility or stretching.
So you’re gonna have to get to know your body specifically, but when we just constantly push through and we not listening to the feedback of our body or not even noticing the feedback that our body is giving us, we’re missing out on some huge signs. Because typically, right our body is going to give us more subtle signs. And then over time, it’s those signs that say, hey, it’s not the right time are you need more rest and recovery means that your body’s going to start being louder and louder and louder. And I see this all the time in my community with people who get injured. And I’ve had injuries as well that have kept me off on the sidelines and not able to participate in the activities that I really enjoy.
Suffice to say, if you have that nagging pain, that nagging shoulder thing, the neck, the knee pain, or whatever it is, and you’re not dealing with it, your body is going to keep sending you signals until something stops working, or you get hurt. So that’s how fits bow really takes us away from tuning in, right? is it taking you away? is it taking us away from listening to those more subtle signals, because before they become a massive problem, the next wave it still harms us is it makes movement punitive? In other words, it is still sold right exercise is still sold in a diet culture mentality as a way to make up for what you ate, or earn your food in the future. Right, do this workout, and then you can eat your extra 200 calories or whatever else it is. And this is hugely problematic because it makes a movement a punishment. Or it makes it a gateway to earning the right to eat. And that is really, really fucked up. And before anyone tells me Oh, that’s just that’s not really how it is. And trust me, I’ve seen the things on social media and by some accounts that have a lot of followers. And there are a lot of eyes on this content, that is still promoting. You know, if you want to eat that holiday pie, or you want to eat that birthday cake, or you want an extra serving of whatever, then you need to do this much exercise in order to account for that. And that’s just, oh, it makes me so mad when I see that stuff. Because it really promotes an unhealthy relationship with food. We don’t have to earn our food or the right to eat. We are human we need to eat, we need the energy, right? It’s okay to have satisfaction and pleasure from the foods that we eat. It’s just so fucked up. And I hear all the time from people in the community saying I was at this fitness class and this trainer was talking about earning, you know, the holiday turkey or whatever it is. And Fitness Trainers do better. nutritionists do better, right? If you are still using these things in your community or saying burn this off, or this and that. reassess, re-evaluate why you’re doing it and think about if it’s really helping people because what it comes down to is making people confused about how deserving they are to eat food and makes them not want to eat. Or it’s further messing up that relationship. So please rethink and it’s also really shamy. Right thinking about Oh, you have to, you know, you’ve got to do this workout in order to earn eating whatever food it is later on in the day. It’s just, it’s really fucked. If you want to send this, this podcast to somebody, please feel free. The other way that Fitspo harms us is it takes the emphasis off of all the other reasons why exercise can be fun and beneficial that have really nothing to do with weight loss or body size control. Things like cardiovascular health, muscular endurance, balance, coordination, flexibility, mobility, and the mental-emotional benefits to our mood, our confidence and taking the focus off aesthetics, the right movement for the pleasure of movement for the ability to move, energy, the movement for the ability to connect with our bodies movement as a form of self-expression, and so on and so forth. It is there are so many benefits to exercise and yet Fitspo reduces it down to how do we look? How much weight are we losing? And if we’re not doing those things, you know, we don’t look a certain way or we’re not losing a certain amount of weight, then we collectively think that that movement has no benefit.
And that’s a huge problem. Another reason why Fitspo needs to die and why it harms us. It confuses us from our or it takes us further away from why we’re actually doing it. And this is where people tell me, but I struggle with motivation. And if you’re, if you are not super, super stressed, and you’ve got enough rest under your belt, and you’re still like, I don’t feel motivated, I would quite ask you to question yourself these things, so are you operating from a place of fear, or lack or not-enoughness when it comes to this particular exercise, because if you’re doing the exercise, because you’re afraid of something, or you are trying to prove your worthiness or enoughness, it’s going to ring hollow. At some point, you’re going to think this is such a slog, I hate doing this, I don’t even enjoy it.
It has to bring some amount of satisfaction or you’re not going to, you’re not going to feel quite motivated. Here’s another question, would you keep doing what you’re doing if a body change was not guaranteed? If I told you, your body is never going to change by doing this exercise, would you keep doing it? That’s a really, that’s a bit of a gut punch question, isn’t it? Because that really gets to the heart of the things that you enjoy about it and your motivation for doing it. And I’m not saying that every If you say no, that it means that you need to change immediately, but it’s worth chewing on. Because it really gets to Why are you doing that thing? And if you are doing it because you want to body change? Can you stretch yourself to see or tune in or tap into or measure some of the other benefits?
Right? So if you do kind of enjoy that, that exercise or you do see the value in it, how else? What else? Are you noticing? How else can you measure your progress? I work on this with my members all the time. Right? We’re talking about goals and they’re like, well, if I’m not measuring my body, then what else can I pay attention to? There are so many things that you can look at, you can even look at if you’re a numbers person and you’d like to get nerdy, get a heart rate variability system, right? We’re just tracking your heart rate and say, you know, what is my heart rate today? Am I recovered? That’s a pretty neutral way of looking at your fitness, your cardiovascular fitness, and your readiness to work out, for example, but what else is there? Can you work toward a particular number of push-ups? Can you work on doing a particular amount of weight in a lift? Are you able to see your breathlessness improve? Or you’re noticing that your cardiovascular fitness, you can go up that flight of stairs and you’re not as out of breath as you were before? What else can you notice and measure? or What else can you pay attention to other than just your body size because bodies will change. And lastly, the idea, I’m just going to talk about the idea that if I take a rest day off, I’m losing my gains. This needs to totally die. This idea of taking a rest day off means that you’ll lose your gainz with a Z. But here’s the thing when you rest and you recover is when your muscles. If we’re talking about strength training, for example, it’s when your muscles actually repair themselves.
Not when you’re doing the exercise, you’re not building strength, it’s in the recovery. So you get stronger when you have adequate rest. And of course, you know what you eat and having enough energy onboard and getting sleep and those things play into it as well. My friend Jamie says that rest and recovery are when you soak up your training. It’s when you soak up the exercises when you soak up the results of the exercise that you did. And I just love that because it puts recovery into a really important context. If you are pushing, pushing, pushing all the time, you’re not actually giving yourself adequate time to soak up the training that you’re doing.
So I hope that this episode today has given you some things to chew on, and some perspective about why Fitspo needs to die. Fitness is about so much more than a look. We talked about the things that we can acknowledge how Fitspo promotes a narrow ideal. no days off life keeps us stuck in proving our worth. And that’s a very patriarchal ideal, and how we really need more accessibility and representation. We also talked about the myriad ways that Fitspo really harms us and takes us further away from listening to our bodies. I would love to have you share this episode out. So make sure you tag me on social media at Steph_Gaudreau on Instagram is where you can find me. Hit subscribe on your podcast app. And of course, if you are ready to join a community of support community for intuitive eating, I highly recommend you check out my Tune-In Membership. It is where all of the in-depth conversations about food movement and body is happening online is supportive. You’re going to find so many amazing resources on your journey in that community. So you can join us here at StephGaudreau.com/Insider. All right, I’ll be back next week for what proves to be will prove to be a very hot episode. Lots of fire in this one coming up so do not miss it. Until then be well.
If you are somebody who tunes in to your body more when you’re doing that exercise, or you think about getting involved in doing it,
does it feel expansive? Does it feel light in your body? Do you feel kind of like you’re propelled along to do it? Or are you constantly feeling like you have to drag yourself? And if it is that you have to drive yourself, it feels heavy, it feels very constrictive. You don’t enjoy any piece of it, I would say what else is there that you can do? Because I love me some strength training, Believe you me, it has changed my life in so many ways. And I really, really enjoy it. But it’s not for everybody. So what do you like? That’s the next question. What do you actually enjoy? And yes, exercise and fitness can be challenging, and it can feel hard at times, and you can still enjoy that. But if you hate every fucking thing about it, pick something else. I know some people that love dancing, dances their thing, they would rather dance around their living room then lifted a dumbbell or barbell great. Love it, like it, enjoy it.